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* Gallery Night, Downtown Pensacola. Dew Pendleton, Gravy Flavored Kisses, Jukebox Superhero @ Vinyl Music Hall & Helen Back. 11/16/2012

For a few Fridays every year, Downtown Pensacola opens its arms and Palafox Street to people looking for music, art and entertainment.  This night featured Dew Pendleton at Helen Back and a free concert by Gravy Flavored Kisses and Jukebox Superhero at Vinyl Music Hall 

– Michael L. Smith





* A Night of Punk Rock and Hip Hop @ The Handlebar. 11/10/12

A high school friend once told me that you can’t listen to rap AND punk rock; you have to pick between one or the other. I laughed and quickly disagreed. Looking back, the craziest part of his statement was the fact that he was dead serious.


Fast forward a few decades to the Night of Punk Rock and Hip Hop at The Handlebar. The show featured Operation Hennessey, Guns to Fire, Big Lo, Inferno, X-Ray Vision, Unnatural Soundz, Dee and Crazed, DJBodySlanga and Kanye Twitty. The event was emceed by local comedian Bubbs Harris.




Event organizer Weston Wilkerson (DJBodySlanga) explained the importance of both genres when I asked him why he put on the event…but that will be detailed in the Night of Punk Rock and Hip Hop Part Deux.

– Michael L. Smith


* Kreayshawn @ Vinyl Music Hall + INTERVIEW W/ KREAYSHAWN 11/09/12.

On the playground of pop music, Natassia Zolot is paying her dues. The payoff, a music career propelled by Kreayshawn and three million Youtube views for her single salutation “Gucci, Gucci”, was advanced ahead of the time most artists spend making their name.


Zolot, a Berkeley Digital Film Institute student, created a persona that became an internet sensation followed by a debut album. This is the part where paying dues comes in. Critics are rarely kind, especially to an artist who-in their opinion-hasn’t “done their time”. SPIN magazine entered Kreayshawn’s debut studio album “Somethin’ ‘Bout Kreay” into their monthly online Worst New Music cache.

Is Kreayshawn for real, a future star? Or is Zolot putting on a show with the next great pop swindle? Is Kreayshawn an entertainer? Ask the fans who were screaming and reaching to touch the Oakland born/raised artist during her Pensacola concert.


There is a sincerity from the rapper who was born into punk. Her first band met in the basement of her aunt’s house, but instead of starting the next Luscious Jackson, she dropped the instruments and focused completely on hip hop.

One week before her “Group Hug” Tour hit Vinyl Music Hall, I called Kreayshawn for the Pensacola News Journal Music Matters column. Her first words mirrored her introduction to the world, “Hello! Hey, what’s up?”

Sincere with a side of giddiness, my adventure with Kreayshawn began.


MS: My girlfriend (at the time) and I are getting ready for Halloween; What are your crazy plans for Halloween this year?

K: I don’t know. We get to tour this morning so, I don’t know. Usually I go out and be all mischievous and crazy. I think I just might scare little kids and eat candy.

MS: Are you going to dress up?

K: Every year I just like pick random stuff out of my closet and turn it into a costume. I don’t really buy something; it’s always some random shit I just made up.

MS: You mentioned touring; you’re busy as hell, what’s the most exciting part of being Kreayshawn?

K: The most exciting part would probably be…oh…getting free clothes and getting free clothes and traveling.

MS: I know your mom was in a punk band, what kind of music was flowing through your household as a kid?

K: All kinds of stuff from Dead Kennedys to crazy funk music. I don’t know how to really….

MS: The reason why I ask is because I would love to see you as the leader of a band like Luscious Jackson or even like Sleigh Bells mixing hip-hop, punk, metal and punk. Is there a chance we can see you adding a band or maybe doing something like that in the future?

K: Yeah. I mean it’s something I’ve definitely tried before when I was younger. My aunt had this band room with all these instruments and after school me and my friends would go and we made this band called Breakfast after School and we’d always practice, but it never turned into anything.

MS: What’s the craziest thing you’ve seen at one of your shows?


K: I’ve seen girls flashing me and people getting…Oh! This one time-it’s not the craziest thing, but it was so funny-we did a show and we were watching the video of it later on and my homegirl was filming some girl face-smooshed this other girl and it was like the funniest thing ever. The whole crowd is doing its thing, and in the corner, you just see this girl get her face grabbed and smooshed to the ground. It’s hilarious. We’ve had girl fights just like any other rap show.

MS: As an artist, how do you juggle the love and the criticism you get?

K: I know it’s hard because I’m always online talking to people and stuff so it’s not like someone is running my account. Like I read all that crazy people be like, “I’m gonna’ rape your mom for making horrible music” I’m like, “What? What?” I usually just be like, people who bully need help, the ones who are not happy with their lives. No one’s so happy with their lives that they harass conditions. I think like that.”

MS: Why does it seem that the media asks females-especially female artists in hip-hop the dumbest questions that have nothing to do with their art? I see people asking you some of the craziest shit. Why is that?

K: A lot of people ask me, “So, what’s your favorite place to shop?” or “What’s your fashion inspiration?” For girls, definitely when other girls, like younger girls look up to you, they want to do everything you do; they want to dress like you and blah, blah. They ask stuff like that but at the same time it’s like sometimes, I’ve done interviews where they didn’t even ask me about my album. It would just be like, “Oh, you like wearing platforms?” I don’t know. It’s cool though, I like being tall I guess.

MS: It just strikes me that you get questions that most male artists don’t get. What’s the best advice you’ve ever been given?

K: I’ll randomly have these moments when I’m in the studio and some crazy celebrity will come through-like Pharrell-and he’ll be like, “Keep doin’ what you’re doin’.” That’s all I need. I’ll be like “Oh, my god! You don’t even have to give me advice, just talk to me.”

I take random things. When people won’t even be trying to give me advice and they’ll say something super inspirational and I kind of take it into my own advice.

MS: On that same note, a lot people look up to you, not just women, but men too. What advice would you give to someone who wants to be where you are?

K: I would say, “Have everything be as organic as possible. You can’t just force the viral video. A lot people just want to make that “Gucci Gucci” video again. So you can’t force it, it’s got to be organic and you just got to have a passion for music and usually that stands out especially nowadays because it’s easier.  But it’s not, because and that makes it kind of like, people get to choose what music becomes popular again, because somebody has all these hits on Youtube and it only makes sense that it should be on the radio. I don’t know, it’s crazy. Well, the internet, at first, kind of ruined music because it was all like “Oh, people are ripping music offline”, but now it’s like the internet is influencing music it makes whole other crazy way now.

MS: This is a crazy question; Do you prefer crunchy or creamy peanut butter?

K: Crunchy!

MS: Any particular reason why?

K: I don’t know. I just like crunchy little peanuts.

MS: What is something about yourself that no one else knows?

K: That…I don’t know. Everyone knows everything about me. (California stop-start laugh) So, I don’t know, I can’t think. “I’m great in bed.” I don’t know.

MS: Is there anything else you want the fans in Pensacola, Florida to know?

K: That we’re going to turn it up and have a good time.

– Michael L. Smith


* Ryan Cabrera, Deleasa @ Vinyl Music Hall. 11/05/12

When Ryan Cabrera’s “I See Love” Tour hit Vinyl Music Hall, the biggest cheers of the night came when the Dallas pop rocker performed his biggest hit “On the Way Down”.




The single, which was released on Cabrera’s 2004 album “Take It All Away” featured Goo Goo Dolls frontman John Rzeznik on backup vocals. The single reached #15 on the Billboard Hot 100.

Michael L. Smith


* Lagwagon, Plow United, It Starts Today @ Vinyl Music Hall + INTERVIEWS W/ JOEY CAPE & EARL LYON 10/28/2012.

“That’s my favorite tour story and I never tell it. I never felt comfortable telling it really until recently. So I’m really glad that we’re coming back there. I’ve got lots of good stories about Pensacola because we basically lived there for a couple of days after that.

I was excited that this interview was with someone in Pensacola because one of my favorite memories from Lagwagon touring happened in Pensacola; we actually broke up onstage at a gig at Sluggo’s. “

– Joey Cape of Lagwagon


I don’t know how long Joey Cape had been keeping it in.

I don’t know when he made peace with it all, but Cape talked about the band’s onstage fight at Sluggo’s, his drummer’s addiction, and the days he spent in Pensacola while Derrick Plourde was in detox.

Earl’s Killer Squirrel frontman Earl Lyon witnessed the fight and also gave his account for my Pensacola News Journal “Music Matters” column “Lagwagon back in town that nearly spelled its end”   before the show at Vinyl Music Hall.

The full interviews with Cape and Lyon follow bellow.

Joey Cape Interview

MS: With all of the touring with Lagwagon, your solo work, and new band, what’s the most exciting thing for you?

JC: It’s always been just the creative side of things. I much prefer working on new music and the recording process. That’s always, for me, been the most rewarding part of the gig.

MS: What’s the craziest thing you’ve seen at one of your shows?

JC: (Silence) Well, it’s a funny thing you bring that up, actually because I was excited that this interview was with someone in Pensacola because one of my favorite memories from Lagwagon touring happened in Pensacola; we actually broke up onstage at a gig at Sluggo’s.

MS: Wow.


JC: Back in 95. It was insane. It was just insane. It makes that Billy Joe thing-freaking out on TV or whatever, that Radiofest-makes that look totally weak. (Laughs) The only difference is back when we did it, there weren’t smart phones and the internet wasn’t in everybody’s hands. I’ve wished forever and ever that somebody got it on film because I would love to see it but no one did. Because, when you really think about it, it’s funny.

Basically what it was, was that, the drummer that toured with the band was really…he was having a real hard time…he was a drug addict. He was getting worse and worse on tour and we were…the tension in the band, in other places as well, was getting heavier and heavier and everybody’s come to terms with this stuff now, we’re all at peace with it. There were many, many good years after that when Derrick (Plourde) was fine and we’re all friends, so I’m not saying anything that’s going to cause anybody grief, but it was bad. Derrick was a mess, he couldn’t stay awake on the stage. People in the band…we hated each other. (Laughs). I’ll never forget, we’re onstage at Sluggo’s and our drummer just nodded out and then Shawn Dewey our rhythm guitar player, he started yelling at somebody in the audience for running into the microphone and hurting his face, he was bleeding or something. And I start yelling at him, I start saying, “Well, I don’t care what he says. We don’t agree with him.” to the audience and then we started into it and then our other guitar player-you got to remember, these guys are giants. Like Shawn Dewey is like 6’7” and Chris Flippin, other guitar player, who came to my rescue there and they started fighting, he’s 6’9”, almost 6’`10”, he’s 6’9 and three quarters, so the two of them start fighting, and they’re fist-fighting onstage.

Our stage-tech guy pulls the kick drum out from in front of Derrick onto the ground and Derrick falls in the middle of the stage and starts kicking him and calling him an f’n you know what like, “You’re ruining this band.” (Laughs) I know it’s not funny at all, but it was so…it was so surreal when I look back on it now. And Jesse (Buglione) bass player, he’s kind of standing there cross-legged with a cigarette smoking really awkwardly, looking at me and I looked at him and I just kind of made this face like “Oh, well!” because that’s it! And Jesse nods to the right and I look over and there’s this crowd; like a full Sluggo’s room of kids with their mouths going “Oh my god. What am I watching?”

That’s my favorite tour story and I never tell it. I never felt comfortable telling it really until recently. So I’m really glad that we’re coming back there. I’ve got lots of good stories about Pensacola because we basically lived there for a couple of days after that. Me, Brian and Steve was our stage guy, our one roadie; we had one roadie back in those days and so he’s part of our team. He and I stayed there while Derrick went to a detox facility in Pensacola. We got to know the locals pretty good. It’s a cool town. I haven’t been there in many years, so I don’t know.

MS: Did you go to the beach when you were here?

JC: I don’t remember going to the beach in Pensacola, Florida. I remember going out every night, late, going to clubs and hanging out with a couple people that we knew a little bit. I kinda knew that guy Gus (Brandt), who ended up working with the Foo Fighters. You know, it was like weird. It was more like a David Lynch movie back in 95’ to me being an unlocal. It was like this guy that had a cab that wasn’t a cab and he called it Ramen Cab and you gave him Top Ramen, he would drive you anywhere. I don’t know if you ever heard of that. And…uh…yes, so we would just stock up on top ramen and give it to the ramen cab guy and he’d drive us around to these bars and hang out with the local punk kids. It was just super fun. We were having a great time while our buddy was trying to…you know, it was for the better of course. I remember going to the beach in Florida towns on the east coast on the other side.

MS: Glad you guys are coming back to Pensacola. Just you saying Sluggo’s, I remember those memories of old shows back then.

JC: The other thing was the Nite Owl.

MS: Oh,the Nite Owl. That closed down back in 2000 something. I saw my first show there in the late 80’s. That was an awesome club too. The Handlebar is still around in Pensacola.

JC: Oh yeah! I remember that place. Cool. Yeah. I’m sure we’ll go out. We’re not a band that shies away from hanging out after the shows (Laughs). We pretty much go out every night and-to our detriment, I’m sure. We like to have a good time. I’m going out in Pensacola for sure. Provided that I’m not sick, you know what I mean. Which is the only thing that keeps me from going out is if I get sick. I don’t think that’s going to happen. That’s great. I’m looking forward to seeing you, It’s been a long time. Like I said, we spent a few days there so I kind of feel like I got to know the place a bit. It was so long ago.

MS: The box set came out last year, what Lagwagon songs get you off the most when you’re playing them live?

JC: It’s cool because we’re playing songs from the first five records. There are some songs in the set that we really haven’t played much since the early, early days and those are ones. They feel new and they feel refreshed and sometimes that effects the other songs in the set that are old as well that we have been playing for years because when everything is in the same setting that old feeling that the band had, that vibe, somehow it kind of elevates everything to a little bit higher intensity. I can’t really figure it out, but I know some of those songs…well, if you…there’s a song called “Lazy” that’s a song on our second record, and we didn’t play that song for so many years and I think that was mostly my fault…it’s a really hard and high song to sing, super intense; kind of a voice killer, but I think that I finally got my shit together. I’ve finally gotten strong enough now to do those songs, so that’s really cool. Just anytime you’re doing something you haven’t done in a long time, it feels fresh and good.

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MS: What would Joey of today tell a younger Joey just starting out?

JC: I would say, “Remember that band that you had that sounded kind of like Nirvana before Nirvana existed? Maybe you should’ve rolled with those dudes.” (Laughs) That’s only for my daughter’s sake. Yeah, I don’t know. I’m pretty happy with the way we’ve done things. We’ve been pretty true to ourselves and self-indulgent the whole way. I don’t know that we’ve ever really made any decisions that weren’t serving our immediate needs. That sounds weird, but that’s the way to do it. When people start planning and calculating for success and those kinds of things, you can make a lot of bad decisions in music and in general in the business of music. And we’ve stuck with the same label the whole time; we didn’t really promote ourselves in a way that put us into a different perspective to those that like the band. I don’t know. I don’t have a lot of advice. Maybe drink less.

MS: As far as advice, since you mentioned it; what’s the best advice you’ve ever been given?

JC: Oh, boy. It’s usually me giving the great advice out here (Laughs). Boy, that’s a really tough question. I mean, I’ve been given lots of great advice by people. I don’t even remember who, but somebody must have told me sooner or later, somewhere along the line really early on, that the best thing to do is to “Just be yourself when you play shows.” Because-and maybe I just figured this out, but I’m sure somebody said it to me somewhere along the line as well. This is good advice, “If you can figure out a way to do something that embodies entertaining people and completely maintain your own personality without creating any kind of alter-ego or…there’s a way to do it where you just literally walk around being the same person you are offstage, you can have a much better run and a much better time and it’s never going to get weird.

MS: This is a crazy one; do you prefer crunchy or creamy peanut butter?

JC: Oh man, that’s a really tough one…well it depends. I mean, you know, my initial reaction was crunchy because it’s more exciting (Laughs)…but, I mean, I would say…I’m going to go with creamy because-first of all, creamy is just an awesome word. For some reason, all I can think of right now is peanut butter on celery and I think that smooth is better on the celery.

MS: That’s true. You’re making me hungry Joey.

JC: You’re making me hungry, man. I haven’t eaten yet today. I got to get a peanut butter sandwich somewhere.

MS: You guys are in New England tonight, where?

JC: We’re in Massachusetts…we’re playing Boston tomorrow night and we’re just in a parking lot somewhere in Massachusetts with the day off. Literally in a dirt, parking lot parked nowhere near anything. It’s not going to be a very fun day, but the Smoking Popes are playing in Boston tonight and the word is we can get a shower from a hotel nearby the airport, then we can take the Blue Line downtown to Cambridge and we can see the Smoking Popes. We’re probably going to stay in the bus and watch the Chappelle Show. (laughs)

MS: This is my last question for you. Is there anything else you’d like to add for the fans coming out to Vinyl Music Hall in Pensacola?

JC: I hope they show up. It’s been a long time. I don’t know what that means; I don’t know if we have any. I hope there’s a lot of them. I don’t know what night of the week it is, but I would always say the same thing, man, “Just come on out and have a good time with us cause’ we’re fun.”  Introduce yourself when you get a chance.

Earl Lyon (Earl’s Killer Squirrel) Interview

MS: What do you remember? First of all, why were you there?

EL: I worked there at Sluggo’s back in…the one on Palafox and Intendencia; the three story one and one night, Lagwagon’s playing, everything’s going fine and in the middle of the show, they cut the set short because, obviously, some people were out of it and couldn’t perform. And the next thing you know, people are leaving and they had a big fistfight between the two guitarists.

MS: Did you see the fistfight?

EL: I was in the dressing room cleaning up while they were fighting right there on the side.

MS: Where you shocked or did you see it coming?

EL: I wasn’t really shocked, but for seeing Lagwagon for, that was like my fourth of fifth time seeing them and they seemed tight and you didn’t think anything like that would happen, but obviously, there was a breaking point, you know.

MS: Hell yeah. Is there anything you want to add? Are you going to the show next week?

EL: Oh yeah. I’m going. I love Lagwagon. They replaced those two members, the drummer and the guitarist after that and moved along and kind of really got kind of-I wouldn’t say emo-, but he really started thinking out his music when Lagwagon got back together and started their fourth album “Double Plaidinum”. It was really thought out after that. You could tell that everything that happened that night affected him.  

Michael L. Smith


* Man or Astroman?, The Octopus Project @ Vinyl Music Hall.10/27/12

Man or Astroman? were the first surf/rock punk band I ever saw. They were also the last band I ever watched at the old Sluggo’s on Intendencia Street.


Leaning on the the second-story railing watching the floor and a stage crammed with TV’s and spacesuits, I experienced sensory overload when the Alabama group started their show.

Nearly a full drinking age would pass until I saw them again when they played Vinyl Music Hall. Austin electronic group The Octopus Project opened the show with their own visual/sonic treats.


Led by Brian Causey (Star Crunch/guitar), Brian Tesley (Birdstuff/drums), Robert DelBueno (Coco/bass) and Samantha Erin Paulsen (Avona Nova/guitar) MOAM rocked sleeker suits and the same multi-sensory assault of surf punk rock.



DelBueno teased the Vinyl crowd with promises of a theremin duel between both bands. The promise was kept at the end of the show with TOP’s Yvonne Lambert winning the contest.

– Michael L. Smith

Here is a link to additional show photos taken exclusively for News Journal.


* In This Moment @ Vinyl Music Hall. 10/24/12 + INTERVIEW W/ CHRIS HOWORTH

There is no choice. When your manager says you won’t make it and you lose two of your bandmates to an “American Idol”, you either keep rocking or give up the dream.


In This Moment not only kept rocking, they got harder. In a month where Vinyl Music Hall had a show for almost every night of the week, the LA band touring with their new release “Blood”, lit up the calendar and everyone in the downtown Pensacola venue. One week before their show, guitarist Chris Howorth answered a few questions about their music, meeting Maria Brink and more for my weekly “Music Matters” column in the Pensacola News Journal.

-Full interview with Chris Howorth

MS: Congratulations on “Blood”. That is a brutally amazing album. You guys faced some incredible odds before that album was even created.  (lost two band members and a manager) What pushed you to overcome those events and make such an amazing album?

CH: It wasn’t something we planned, “This is how we’re going to overcome it.” With everything that happened, what it did to us mentally, why it turned out the way it did. Maria and I were both determined more than ever, we want to do this and show everyone that we deserve to be here and we need to make an album that’s going to show everyone that’s doubting us, ‘oh, they’re good.’ That was our main driving force and we just worked like that. And also our producer Kevin (Churko), he’s been believing in the band since 2008 and the first album we did with him. He’s always thought that we should be fuller than we are and we haven’t got quite the right chance that some people we were working with before the split were questioning whether we should work with Kevin and I explained that to him and he was all pumped up and doing the same, “I’m going to show everybody” and the three of us having that vibe came through in the record.


MS: Hell yeah and it shows.

CH: Thanks man.

MS: What gets you off the most about playing live?

CH: One of the best things…what made me want do music was seeing my favorite band in concert, seeing the videos on Headbangers’ Ball on MTV back in the day. The “live” thing, you know. It’s always been (the) pre-live show feeling of “We’re doing this. This is going to be great.” And then we get onstage and have a great crowd that knows the words and gives it back to you, it makes it so easy for you to give it them. When it all comes together to have a great show, it’s hard to top that.

MS: Was there ever a moment when you were like, “This is it! God, I’m doing what I wanted to do since I was a kid.”

CH: Yeah. It happens all the time. You’re going from one great awesome moment through a little peak and valley to the next big moment. Part of it’s just kind of realizing when you’re in those moments that are so epic and appreciating it. Because it doesn’t last forever, everyone knows when you’re really stoked, it’s not like you’re stoked for the rest of your life; you go through pits and valleys your whole life. I guess, you know, having those moments when we did the Ozzy Osborne tour; it was us, Rob Zombie and Ozzy. I’ve been a fan of Ozzy since I was a kid; you see him on the side of the stage watching Ozzy play “Crazy Train” or “Mama, I’m Coming Home” and you’re part of the tour. I was a kid watching him from the outside and now I’m part of the tour. It’s like that moment where you’re thinking, “Wow. I can’t believe I’m really standing here right now. This is the most amazing feeling I’ve ever had.” Those happened throughout our career and those are the moments that you hang onto forever the most.

MS: Speaking of live, what’s the craziest thing you’ve seen at one of your shows?

CH: We don’t have the craziest Motley Crue type fans, but one of the best things was Mayhem Fest 2010, San Bernadino. The amazingly huge massive pit, like savage pit-dust flying up and there’s this huge circle and in the middle of the circle there’s four or five metal dudes going all nuts and they start burning stuff and burning shirts and flags in the middle of this huge circle pit with dust in the air…it was just insanely epic…from our vantage point anyways.

MS: You’ve got the album, you’ve got the tour, you’re joining Halestorm soon; what’s the next big goal?

CH: The CD’s selling awesome and we’re on the charts, we’re #11 on the Active Rock Chart and getting in the top 10 will be a huge thing for us-that’s really close. We’re also, we’ve been a band since 2006 and we’ve never managed to break that 100,000 sales mark and the album is selling like crazy right now and we’re rapidly approaching that, that will be a huge milestone for us too. And since we’ve been together and we’ve never really gotten to that next level, this album is getting us to that next level so all the things that come along with that is what we’re looking forward to and what we’re going to be seeing this year and the next year and we’re looking forward to our guarantees increasing and actually making a little bit of money from all of this…because Maria and I have been doing this out of love. We haven’t made money until just recently, we’re now sort of turning the corner where we actually put money in our pockets personally. We’re paying everybody else that works for us, but not ourselves and there’s a lot of great things we’re looking forward to like that.

MS: How did you meet Maria? You have such an amazing dynamic.

CH: We kind of met by chance out here in L.A. I was in a band and one of the guys in my band had met Maria and found out that she was looking for a band. He thought she was awesome-I’d never heard her-he brought her over and she was trying to get us to try her out and I never really wanted to be in a band with a girl-I support girls and everything, but I just never really was giving it a lot credibility and I was going like, “Ah, whatever” and never tried her out and then a couple of weeks later, she came again and forced herself into the band session we were having and sang. And right when she sang, I was like, “Oh! I dig this.” And right from that moment on, her and I just started working on getting a band going and we’ve been in a couple of different things, but we just stuck together ever since then.


-MS: What’s the best advice you’ve ever been given?

CH: That’s a good one. I’m trying to think. The funniest advice I’ve ever been given was our first manager-I think it was like…we were still in a band touring in a van trailer and we were all in one hotel room, our first album had come out, we were all really excited, everything was going so good, we were thinking big and we told him, “We’re going to sell a million albums” and he was like, “I don’t want to be the first one to tell you ‘You’re not going to sell a million albums’, but you’re not going to sell a million albums. (Laughs) And we were devastated, man. We were like, “What? We can’t think like that.” We all sat there like, “That was fucked up!” We’re going to call him back and just like, “I just want you to know that that is unacceptable. We need people that are positive working for us; people that believe!” We’ve been given some pretty weird advice and different things because some people are believers and some people are practical, you know, in the business. So you gotta’ deal with the bad, but we’re believers and so we always shift from that and just, it’s all about being practical, it’s about what you can do when you’re dreaming in your head and working towards that and wanting to keep believing it and seeing it and working to make it happen; it can happen. That’s how things happen, man! So, sorry it wasn’t good advice. Advice I have for anyone is, “Don’t give up.” Because Maria and I-before we met, we’d both been trying to do this for a long time, ups and downs and thinking “oh, this one is going to do something” and doesn’t do anything. The only way to really make it happen for yourself-and this can be for anything in life-is not giving up. That’s the first key thing. Is to just not give up on something, because once you stop trying for something, you’re never going to get it. That’s my advice.

MS: Let me backtrack, I have another question; you guys toured with Rob Zombie and Ozzy Osbourne…are there any other great artists that you would love to tour with or work with in the studio?

CH: Yes, man. Maria’s a huge Deftones fan and we’ve been trying to play with the Deftones or get with Chino on something…anything that we can do with them. And that’s one band that it has never happened, they’ve never invited us and our paths have never really crossed where we have been on tour with them or anything. So that’s a huge one and I’ve always said Metallica. We’ve got to tour with Ozzy, why not tour with Metallica? For me it’s like-I know it’s a little heavy, but I think we’d do good. There’s a few that are really good ones that we’ve always kind of wanted, but it hasn’t happened yet. You never know. We’re not saying anything is impossible.

MS: Chris, I have to ask you, this question is a crazy one; do you prefer crunchy or creamy peanut butter?

CH: Oh, crunchy, man! Crunchy. Put a whole peanut in there and I’m fine with it.

MS: This is my last question for you, Chris; is there anything you want the Pensacola fan to knows about the show, the tour before you hit Vinyl Music Hall?


CH: Well, we’ve never been there, so I’m really excited to see who shows up and what’s going on. If you haven’t seen us, come see us because we’re better than ever, we’re pretty much a theatrical production. You’re going to see more than just us standing up there in our shorts. You’re going to see a full production as much as we can do in that club. And we’re also learning a bunch of new songs at practice, so we’re going to be playing some brand new stuff that no one’s ever heard live. It’ll be really cool, man.

MS: Is there a chance you’ll have a new album out soon? I know that “Blood” just came out not too long ago, is there a chance for a new album soon within the next year maybe?

CH: Not soon, but I guarantee you, man, by the end of next year everyone’s going to be going, “Alright, well, I guess you’re going to start working on something else.” It depends on where we’re at. If this album’s blowing up even more next year, we might ride it a little longer. But it seems to be a good year and a half is how long an album’s success usually goes. We’ll start working on other stuff, because you know, they’re immediately going to want a follow-up right when we end the tour. Nothing too soon though. Come say hi, introduce yourself.

– Michael L. Smith

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